Where does climate and energy policy go from here? In the new podcast miniseries The Roadmap, The Atlantic‘s Rob Meyer joins EPIC scholars to take a deep dive into timely climate and energy issues and the evidence behind needed policy changes, as described in the U.S. Energy & Climate Roadmap.

For the first episode, Rob talks with EPIC Director Michael Greenstone and UChicago Law’s David Weisbach about one of the most important and political issues in climate policy: carbon prices. They also discuss one of the biggest questions surrounding carbon pricing, which is how to impose a carbon price without driving industry overseas and without exporting carbon emissions—a phenomenon called carbon leakage.